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jnd

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05.10.2008
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Hi !


Do you use some kind chains or something...?

Put a few pics if you have.

Any good idea is welcome.


Regards !

:)
 

Sascha Meyer

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18.05.2007
5.385
Hi jnd,

our fellows in switzerland that are used in driving through ten meters of snow, visiting alm oehi even in snow storm and things like that, you know, aehem, i mean, they know what snow is like.
These buddys and those of use that are trained in snow driving gave us a great tip:
just put some cable ties onto the backward tires, just linke snow chain for single use. They will not last for ever, but long enough to find your way home. I did never use this by myself, but i have always some fixers in my el. I will try to shot a picture or two and put in in here..

I do not think spikes are workable. And never heared of chains for the el.

Greetings from Germany, Sascha
 

korbi

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02.08.2006
1.141
Chiemsee
Hello Vitali,

there are winter tires named "Heidenau".
Here are some infos: http://elweb.info/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=cityel_reifen

I had not tested it, but many people said, they are good on snow and ice.
But of course the range is reducing...

Oh, and if the snow is very deep, then take off the wheels - the cityel is a snow carriage itself ... :D
 

jnd

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^
Hahaha

:joke: :joke:

Reifen Continental KKS11 - for winter or no?May be this is all seasons tyre?
 

korbi

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02.08.2006
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Chiemsee
Hello,

the Continental is not for winter built and not "all season"..
You can naturally drive it carefully, but the adhesion is already on wet street bad...
 

korbi

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02.08.2006
1.141
Chiemsee
Hello,

I take my big car with winter-wheels! ;)

And most of the time the main-streets are free of snow because of salt.
 

jnd

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05.10.2008
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Hi!

:)

To long time..

New idea!

What about to lock right wheel just for 20-50 meters. I just need to reach main road.
My idea is 2 back wheels to run together only this 20-50 meters.
I try it and i can tell that EL run very well.
I use 2 screws to right wheel one wrench and piece of rope.
My way is not bad( i mean it don`t damage El in any way) but i want to hear and your ideas how to make back two weels to run together.

Regards!
 

jnd

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Hi!

See here one picture of my idea:



http://www.prikachi.com/images/413/4370413A.jpg

It work well and El run really 50% better in snow!

This idea is only for extreme bad snowy weather. it is not suitable to drive like this a long time.
 

thegray

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15.04.2008
8.715
Boh ej:joke:

@jnd
i - Pardon we have the solution for you!

Kontakt alias "wolfgang dwuzet"
and ask for Vukolan Clutch-Kit or Look und Theme´s :

Sammelbestellung für Antriebsplatte rechte Seite !!!!!!!
eminenter Hinweis - Wolle´s Vukolan Kupplung bzw. deren Anwendung Thrige wie Scheibenläufe.
Antriebsplatte rechtes Rad Nachfertigung 2. Sammelbestellung.

Depends from pressing by Nut - r. Wheelforce ~20-50%, functionality neer Diffiential/lock - Without NOISE!

Driving 8 Weeks.

Left only climbing hill with 15% difficult; 15gegree Plus and rain - with "Wolles" Vulkolan-Clutchsystem ; Payload and 120A; Rain - NOPROBLEM

Yesterday Testet by -15 Degree; fresh snow on Asphalt in Frankfurt City - with old original Conti "Hardplastic" the same acceleration like other Cars - NOPROB´s with 60A up 20-25Km/h 160A without weehlspin (ok neer:D)

Nice Speed an Drifts with good Steeringcontrol:spos:

ps.
First Version - 4 Points from 5
 

jnd

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05.10.2008
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Hi!

Can i see some pictures?
I need to see what is this thing?
I find this theme but i don`t see anithing.

Please someone to show to me this device?

:)
 

raknar

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06.08.2010
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snow chains for the EL?

http://www.wissenschaftundkabelbinder.de/pics/kabelbinder2.gif


It helps
 

jnd

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05.10.2008
135
Hi!

Yes, it helps.

But snow is many. We just need two back drive wheels.

I drive El 3-4 years i think.

And every winter i wonder how to make rught wheel to be locked to main axle....

But i want to do that in good way with good idea.

:)
 

thegray

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15.04.2008
8.715
Answer take´s time. I use Guest-I-net. Have a Look on Monday - but order it now - ist good solution.
 

jnd

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Hi!

@
thegray

I want to see first how this device look.

You must agree that no one man don`t buy anithing, that he even don`t know how it look.

By the way i think to add a hub motor to front wheel.

3 drive wheels will be the best!


:)
 

Bernd_M

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22.12.2006
1.550
Hello jnd,
The device is nearly the same as the "standard" device,but with different material.

The experience are very different.
It is difficult to use the stainless steel plate ,so you have the right torque
Some user have already damaged the new material.
My option is,if you want a little bit torque or full torque to the left wheel, it is a solution.
If you want a high torque (but not full) than wolfang have to do some more research....

http://www.elweb.de/coppermine/albums/userpics/10018/normal_rechts.JPG

Bernd M
SN 3xxxx
 

jnd

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05.10.2008
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Hi!
@
Bernd_M

Lets specify first left/right. I mean we stay in back of the car and free wheel is right wheel, and left wheel is full torque(it is not free at all).
So i think you talk here :
"My option is,if you want a little bit torque or full torque to the left wheel, it is a solution. "
I think that you mean this, if you are in front of the car. :)
However it don`t matter.
I just don`t want to have free wheel in a snow weather.

So i see one litle bit thicker disk that replace old one on the picture.
Is that all?
What about friction? Did friction between disk and wheel damage in any way wheel surface?
Did we must use some greace between 2 sufaces?

Thank you!
:)
 

Bernd_M

Aktives Mitglied
22.12.2006
1.550
Hello jnd,
Yes ,you are right with left and right.wheel.

The "new" material is not the stainless disk ,but the material between the disk and the wheel
Maybe you can find "VULKOLAN" ? Maybe in you country ?
Do not use any greace
If your old spring disk is in good shape,maybe this is not idea.
(But the old one is very flat,and maybe it will not go long)

Bernd M
 

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